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		<title>By: Dorothy G&#62;</title>
		<link>http://bloglily.com/2006/10/20/pink/#comment-1757</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dorothy G&#62;]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Oct 2006 21:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dearest Lily,
I so understand not wanting to identify yourself as a cancer anything.  As a friend of mine said when Claire first got sick, &quot;This is just something that happened to her, not something that defines her.&quot;   DG]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dearest Lily,<br />
I so understand not wanting to identify yourself as a cancer anything.  As a friend of mine said when Claire first got sick, &#8220;This is just something that happened to her, not something that defines her.&#8221;   DG</p>
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		<title>By: Julia Schopick</title>
		<link>http://bloglily.com/2006/10/20/pink/#comment-1727</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Oct 2006 03:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I really enjoyed your post about &quot;think pink&quot; phenomenon, as well as many of the comments. Some truly excellent points were made.

I just want to point out one thing about this &quot;think pink&quot; fundraising phenomenon. What is rarely mentioned in these fundraising organizations&#039; pleas for money is their hidden agenda or agendas  --and their agendas vary widely.

For instance, Breast Cancer Action concentrates in looking for CAUSES of breast cancer, especially environmental causes. Makes sense to me.

But how about the Susan G. Komen Foundation, which is the one that most often encourages the buying of pink products? From what I can see, this organization may well have some troubling ties that we might want to know about before donating money to them.

For instance, an article by Mary Ann Swissler, “The Marketing of Breast Cancer,” claims that the Komen Foundation “helped block a meaningful Patients Bill of Rights for the women it has purported to serve since the group began in 1982,” and that Nancy Brinker, the organization&#039;s founder, is irrevocably tied to conservatism and to George W. Bush, in particular.

One or both of these points might well bother some of those who donate to Breast Cancer through this organization.

On my website, www.honestmedicine.com, I have posted several very interesting articles that take a skeptical look at both the Cancer and Pharmaceutical Establishments.

Among them:

The Mary Ann Swissler article, cited above.

“The Chemo Concession,” the subtitle of which is “Cancer Docs Profit from Chemotherapy Drugs.”

And “Breast Cancer and the Hype Over Herceptin.”

I urge your site visitors to find these articles by going to the links on the left side of my site, and looking under both “CANCER” and “PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES.”

I hope you find these articles interesting!

Julia Schopick 
http://www.honestmedicine.typepad.com]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really enjoyed your post about &#8220;think pink&#8221; phenomenon, as well as many of the comments. Some truly excellent points were made.</p>
<p>I just want to point out one thing about this &#8220;think pink&#8221; fundraising phenomenon. What is rarely mentioned in these fundraising organizations&#8217; pleas for money is their hidden agenda or agendas  &#8211;and their agendas vary widely.</p>
<p>For instance, Breast Cancer Action concentrates in looking for CAUSES of breast cancer, especially environmental causes. Makes sense to me.</p>
<p>But how about the Susan G. Komen Foundation, which is the one that most often encourages the buying of pink products? From what I can see, this organization may well have some troubling ties that we might want to know about before donating money to them.</p>
<p>For instance, an article by Mary Ann Swissler, “The Marketing of Breast Cancer,” claims that the Komen Foundation “helped block a meaningful Patients Bill of Rights for the women it has purported to serve since the group began in 1982,” and that Nancy Brinker, the organization&#8217;s founder, is irrevocably tied to conservatism and to George W. Bush, in particular.</p>
<p>One or both of these points might well bother some of those who donate to Breast Cancer through this organization.</p>
<p>On my website, <a href="http://www.honestmedicine.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.honestmedicine.com</a>, I have posted several very interesting articles that take a skeptical look at both the Cancer and Pharmaceutical Establishments.</p>
<p>Among them:</p>
<p>The Mary Ann Swissler article, cited above.</p>
<p>“The Chemo Concession,” the subtitle of which is “Cancer Docs Profit from Chemotherapy Drugs.”</p>
<p>And “Breast Cancer and the Hype Over Herceptin.”</p>
<p>I urge your site visitors to find these articles by going to the links on the left side of my site, and looking under both “CANCER” and “PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES.”</p>
<p>I hope you find these articles interesting!</p>
<p>Julia Schopick<br />
<a href="http://www.honestmedicine.typepad.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.honestmedicine.typepad.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: mary</title>
		<link>http://bloglily.com/2006/10/20/pink/#comment-1711</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Oct 2006 16:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hadn&#039;t got the memo about wearing pink, or I would have.  To me, the main value is to raise awareness of the issue-- it&#039;s too easy to procrastinate the self-exam, the mammogram, etc.  All the reminders this month did spur me to check my Kaiser list of things they want me to do and there it is-- Nov 06--mammogram.  And shoot-- I whine and complain and invite my loved ones to admire me for my courage after I get my teeth cleaned.  People will say all kinds of silly and awkward things, trying to express the depth of their good will.  I know I do.  The one true thing I can think of to say about cancer is that I wish it didn&#039;t happen.  
I&#039;m all in black this morning, in solidarity with your gothness...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hadn&#8217;t got the memo about wearing pink, or I would have.  To me, the main value is to raise awareness of the issue&#8211; it&#8217;s too easy to procrastinate the self-exam, the mammogram, etc.  All the reminders this month did spur me to check my Kaiser list of things they want me to do and there it is&#8211; Nov 06&#8211;mammogram.  And shoot&#8211; I whine and complain and invite my loved ones to admire me for my courage after I get my teeth cleaned.  People will say all kinds of silly and awkward things, trying to express the depth of their good will.  I know I do.  The one true thing I can think of to say about cancer is that I wish it didn&#8217;t happen.<br />
I&#8217;m all in black this morning, in solidarity with your gothness&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: bloglily</title>
		<link>http://bloglily.com/2006/10/20/pink/#comment-1689</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Oct 2006 15:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Selene,  Yes, it&#039;s true, I&#039;m not really a goth-like person.  But I have an inner goth!

Litlove, I&#039;d forgotten about your research leave -- I hope that&#039;s going well.  Doing good things is a matter of balance.  You do what you can where you can and as long as you give more than you take, don&#039;t you think that&#039;s pretty decent human behavior?

Helen, Stefanie, Dorothy, Patry -- Thank you.  

Mr.dad -- What terrific stories.  Yes, I think work and doing business make sense.  It can&#039;t be all breast, all the time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Selene,  Yes, it&#8217;s true, I&#8217;m not really a goth-like person.  But I have an inner goth!</p>
<p>Litlove, I&#8217;d forgotten about your research leave &#8212; I hope that&#8217;s going well.  Doing good things is a matter of balance.  You do what you can where you can and as long as you give more than you take, don&#8217;t you think that&#8217;s pretty decent human behavior?</p>
<p>Helen, Stefanie, Dorothy, Patry &#8212; Thank you.  </p>
<p>Mr.dad &#8212; What terrific stories.  Yes, I think work and doing business make sense.  It can&#8217;t be all breast, all the time.</p>
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		<title>By: goodbadmumanddad</title>
		<link>http://bloglily.com/2006/10/20/pink/#comment-1687</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Oct 2006 13:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great post.  Brings to mind two recent experiences.  One with an academic I had a meeting with who (in what was a natural enough turn in the conversation) told me that her hair had just grown back after treatment for breast cancer.  She was annoyed it had grown back grey after wearing a blonde wig for months.  She was brisk and funny about it. I said, well, I wouldn&#039;t have noticed it was grey if you hadn&#039;t pointed it out, and we moved on to the next point of business.

Another woman I work with had to explain to me about having to leave work suddenly on a previous day.  It was a side effect of the medication she was taking.  What can do? I asked.  Give me work to do, she said, laughing.  She&#039;s someone who laughs a lot.

So I perhaps understand a little bit where you&#039;re coming from with this and that maybe work and doing business can go on your list along with orchids and chocolates.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post.  Brings to mind two recent experiences.  One with an academic I had a meeting with who (in what was a natural enough turn in the conversation) told me that her hair had just grown back after treatment for breast cancer.  She was annoyed it had grown back grey after wearing a blonde wig for months.  She was brisk and funny about it. I said, well, I wouldn&#8217;t have noticed it was grey if you hadn&#8217;t pointed it out, and we moved on to the next point of business.</p>
<p>Another woman I work with had to explain to me about having to leave work suddenly on a previous day.  It was a side effect of the medication she was taking.  What can do? I asked.  Give me work to do, she said, laughing.  She&#8217;s someone who laughs a lot.</p>
<p>So I perhaps understand a little bit where you&#8217;re coming from with this and that maybe work and doing business can go on your list along with orchids and chocolates.</p>
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		<title>By: patry</title>
		<link>http://bloglily.com/2006/10/20/pink/#comment-1670</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Oct 2006 04:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Beautifully said, as always.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beautifully said, as always.</p>
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		<title>By: Dorothy W.</title>
		<link>http://bloglily.com/2006/10/20/pink/#comment-1665</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dorothy W.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Oct 2006 00:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, a beautiful post.  I think it&#039;s hard for people to figure out how to respond when someone they know is ill, so it&#039;s wonderful to hear your perspective.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, a beautiful post.  I think it&#8217;s hard for people to figure out how to respond when someone they know is ill, so it&#8217;s wonderful to hear your perspective.</p>
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		<title>By: Stefanie</title>
		<link>http://bloglily.com/2006/10/20/pink/#comment-1663</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2006 22:26:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Beautiful post. Thank you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beautiful post. Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Helen</title>
		<link>http://bloglily.com/2006/10/20/pink/#comment-1661</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2006 21:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;You stand out there in the rain, and you get wet...&lt;/em&gt;

Those words stood out for me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>You stand out there in the rain, and you get wet&#8230;</em></p>
<p>Those words stood out for me.</p>
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		<title>By: litlove</title>
		<link>http://bloglily.com/2006/10/20/pink/#comment-1659</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2006 18:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You do express yourself on these fraught issues with such warmth and humanity, dear Bloglily. I had tears in my eyes by the end. I&#039;m not very good at public demonstration.There&#039;s so much suffering I feel incapable of doing anything useful about. So I tend to try and stick with helping out the people I know and love. Believe me, if there was a way that writing about cancer that would cure it, I would be spending my research year on that, gracious me, I would have worked it out by now! As you say, everyone is different and it&#039;s good and healthy to have lots of ways to allow people to express their solidarity and their concern. For myself I would wonder what it would actually achieve (as only my family and the cats would see me). So I need to look for other ways to show my support.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You do express yourself on these fraught issues with such warmth and humanity, dear Bloglily. I had tears in my eyes by the end. I&#8217;m not very good at public demonstration.There&#8217;s so much suffering I feel incapable of doing anything useful about. So I tend to try and stick with helping out the people I know and love. Believe me, if there was a way that writing about cancer that would cure it, I would be spending my research year on that, gracious me, I would have worked it out by now! As you say, everyone is different and it&#8217;s good and healthy to have lots of ways to allow people to express their solidarity and their concern. For myself I would wonder what it would actually achieve (as only my family and the cats would see me). So I need to look for other ways to show my support.</p>
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		<title>By: wordshaman</title>
		<link>http://bloglily.com/2006/10/20/pink/#comment-1658</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2006 18:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Lily~

May beautiful, lustrous pearls grow out of all those irritations. The pearls that are your words inspire me.

Hard to imagine you slouching around in goth-like black attire, but fun to try, I must admit!

Take care and dream and live in whatever colors suit you best.

~Love and Blessings,
Selene~]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Lily~</p>
<p>May beautiful, lustrous pearls grow out of all those irritations. The pearls that are your words inspire me.</p>
<p>Hard to imagine you slouching around in goth-like black attire, but fun to try, I must admit!</p>
<p>Take care and dream and live in whatever colors suit you best.</p>
<p>~Love and Blessings,<br />
Selene~</p>
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		<title>By: bloglily</title>
		<link>http://bloglily.com/2006/10/20/pink/#comment-1654</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2006 16:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh Nancy, Thank you for telling me that.  It means a great deal to hear what you say. 

 Carl and Courtney, What you say is very helpful. It&#039;s not an either or thing, is it? The truth is that people should speak up about what they care about and demand that things improve. In the long dark teatime of my soul, I suppose I find it difficult to make my way toward my own truth with all the noise about how I am supposed to experience my life. It&#039;s very similar to parenting, actually -- there are strong story lines about being a parent and I find myself irritated with those too. In the end, there has to be room for lots of stories.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh Nancy, Thank you for telling me that.  It means a great deal to hear what you say. </p>
<p> Carl and Courtney, What you say is very helpful. It&#8217;s not an either or thing, is it? The truth is that people should speak up about what they care about and demand that things improve. In the long dark teatime of my soul, I suppose I find it difficult to make my way toward my own truth with all the noise about how I am supposed to experience my life. It&#8217;s very similar to parenting, actually &#8212; there are strong story lines about being a parent and I find myself irritated with those too. In the end, there has to be room for lots of stories.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl V.</title>
		<link>http://bloglily.com/2006/10/20/pink/#comment-1653</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carl V.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2006 15:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Really nice thoughts.  The biggest problem with not wearing pink, in this example, or not shouting loudly about the issue is that people don&#039;t just quietly give...not unless something is brought to their attention by someone who can in some way make the issue important to them.  Lets face it, there are a world of problems and in the end it is just like everything else...it pays to advertise!  I admire the effort that people go to in order to both promote awareness of and gain funding for breast cancer prevention and treatment but I agree with you in that it isn&#039;t something anyone should feel forced to do.  

I like your ideas of what to give a person (who is suffering from any malady)...one thing we can all do a better job of is trying to stay away from the pat catchphrases we use when we feel inadequate but want to show our support and care to someone fighting an illness and try to personalize our love and support to make it more meaningful and more real.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really nice thoughts.  The biggest problem with not wearing pink, in this example, or not shouting loudly about the issue is that people don&#8217;t just quietly give&#8230;not unless something is brought to their attention by someone who can in some way make the issue important to them.  Lets face it, there are a world of problems and in the end it is just like everything else&#8230;it pays to advertise!  I admire the effort that people go to in order to both promote awareness of and gain funding for breast cancer prevention and treatment but I agree with you in that it isn&#8217;t something anyone should feel forced to do.  </p>
<p>I like your ideas of what to give a person (who is suffering from any malady)&#8230;one thing we can all do a better job of is trying to stay away from the pat catchphrases we use when we feel inadequate but want to show our support and care to someone fighting an illness and try to personalize our love and support to make it more meaningful and more real.</p>
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		<title>By: everythinginbetween</title>
		<link>http://bloglily.com/2006/10/20/pink/#comment-1652</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2006 14:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[oops, the word &quot;same&#039; in the above post should be &quot;shame&quot;...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oops, the word &#8220;same&#8217; in the above post should be &#8220;shame&#8221;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: everythinginbetween</title>
		<link>http://bloglily.com/2006/10/20/pink/#comment-1651</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2006 14:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What a beautiful post - you speak so eloquently. I may just have to link to this and not bother posting any more on the month of October! I agree, we have created this narrative where the lines are already written, we learn what we are supposed to say and some people force us to say them.  I have serious concerns about the the metaphor cancer as war, too. 

In the end, and what I&#039;ll get to in a post before the month is out, though, is I would take this sort of in-your face, over the top pinkness any day, over the same and secrecy breast cancer used to suffer from. At least now, we are making a statement, grasping hands in some sort of solidarity, and urging researchers further and further towards finding successful treatments.

I&#039;m wearing pink today, mostly because work requires me to but a little bit because it makes me feel good, too :-).
Take care, bloglily.
Courtney]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a beautiful post &#8211; you speak so eloquently. I may just have to link to this and not bother posting any more on the month of October! I agree, we have created this narrative where the lines are already written, we learn what we are supposed to say and some people force us to say them.  I have serious concerns about the the metaphor cancer as war, too. </p>
<p>In the end, and what I&#8217;ll get to in a post before the month is out, though, is I would take this sort of in-your face, over the top pinkness any day, over the same and secrecy breast cancer used to suffer from. At least now, we are making a statement, grasping hands in some sort of solidarity, and urging researchers further and further towards finding successful treatments.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m wearing pink today, mostly because work requires me to but a little bit because it makes me feel good, too <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> .<br />
Take care, bloglily.<br />
Courtney</p>
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