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		<title>By: LK</title>
		<link>http://bloglily.com/2007/01/09/if-you-dont-have-anything-nice-to-say/#comment-4765</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jan 2007 19:53:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting, I can&#039;t wait to read all the posts here. 

I have trouble writing about books, as I&#039;ve discovered, and I am not really sure why. I can pan a real piece of tripe, but most efforts don&#039;t fall under the category of trash or classic -- most writing is in between, and more difficult to write about.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting, I can&#8217;t wait to read all the posts here. </p>
<p>I have trouble writing about books, as I&#8217;ve discovered, and I am not really sure why. I can pan a real piece of tripe, but most efforts don&#8217;t fall under the category of trash or classic &#8212; most writing is in between, and more difficult to write about.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 02:51:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;It’s not easy to write a really good book.  I should know, having spent almost three years writing something I’d be delighted to have even recognized as resembling a novel.&lt;/i&gt;

And, as a screenwriter (okay director like Lynch or Burton who write the films they direct typically), I can totally relate.  Though in all the writing courses I have taken, novels are simple in comparison, in that it is a more open and unrestricted written medium.  All I can say is the advice I was given.  Writing is about re-writing.  I&#039;ve done better by shutting off the judgemental side when I write, and then do the analytical phase just reading, and then adjusting again and again until I&#039;m sick to my stomach.  Then usually somebody likes it.

Usually.  Mind you, in a visual medium, if I can start to draw the action in storyboards, and I like the dialogue, I will run with it.  But enough rambling.  Must try to write.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>It’s not easy to write a really good book.  I should know, having spent almost three years writing something I’d be delighted to have even recognized as resembling a novel.</i></p>
<p>And, as a screenwriter (okay director like Lynch or Burton who write the films they direct typically), I can totally relate.  Though in all the writing courses I have taken, novels are simple in comparison, in that it is a more open and unrestricted written medium.  All I can say is the advice I was given.  Writing is about re-writing.  I&#8217;ve done better by shutting off the judgemental side when I write, and then do the analytical phase just reading, and then adjusting again and again until I&#8217;m sick to my stomach.  Then usually somebody likes it.</p>
<p>Usually.  Mind you, in a visual medium, if I can start to draw the action in storyboards, and I like the dialogue, I will run with it.  But enough rambling.  Must try to write.</p>
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		<title>By: Lazy Cow</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jan 2007 22:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am  such a  crappy  book reviewer that I rarely do it (and confess that I fall into the loved it/hated it category). Since reading this post I have been thinking  more about what is working for me, and what isn&#039;t, when reading a novel. As I&#039;m currently reading The Historian by Elizabeth Kostova, I have over  700 pages of writing to mull over. It is enriching my reading experience tremendously, not like in the old days of English Lit in high school, where thinking about &#039;themes&#039; (urgh) turned me off any kind of book crit altogether.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am  such a  crappy  book reviewer that I rarely do it (and confess that I fall into the loved it/hated it category). Since reading this post I have been thinking  more about what is working for me, and what isn&#8217;t, when reading a novel. As I&#8217;m currently reading The Historian by Elizabeth Kostova, I have over  700 pages of writing to mull over. It is enriching my reading experience tremendously, not like in the old days of English Lit in high school, where thinking about &#8216;themes&#8217; (urgh) turned me off any kind of book crit altogether.</p>
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		<title>By: Rashenbo</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jan 2007 19:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A very nice review. Thank you for your thoughts and then sharing them. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A very nice review. Thank you for your thoughts and then sharing them. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: bloglily</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jan 2007 00:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Danielle,  I think it&#039;s good to begin the year thinking a little about how and why we do what we do.  Thanks for helping me in that endeavor!

You&#039;re very right, Emily, that it is in discussing different points of view that you find yourself actually figuring out what you do really think about someting.

Hello Charlotte -- I also really like my book group and have found that we have the best discussions when a book really forces us out of the places we like to be.  

Mandarine -- The infinite shades of gray between black and white take longer to express?  Aren&#039;t what people are looking for?  I don&#039;t know, actually, but I think you&#039;ve asked a very good question.

Dear Litlove -- That&#039;s such an interesting point you make, about literary criticism not being about making judgments.  That certainly makes sense if you&#039;ve chosen the work you&#039;re writing about.  Goodness knows you&#039;d better pick somebody you like if you&#039;re going to be living with them for a long time!   

Ann -- I am going to remember that &quot;Tell Me&quot; template.  It&#039;s something I wish I&#039;d known when I began writing essays, and I&#039;ll bet my own children will be putting it to good use soon enough!  

Dorothy -- A spectacularly flawed book can be a very interesting thing to write about, I&#039;ve just realized.  Books like that can show you a trend that&#039;s been pushed in the wrong direction, or too far, for example.  I love what you posted about this subject, by the way -- what really matters is that you write interestingly and energetically about your chosen subject.

Well there you go, W -- I&#039;m glad Boyd had that to take his mind off my blog post.

Carl -- I&#039;m with you -- I&#039;d rather go on about something I think is wonderful than slog along describing some insipid book or film.

Kate -- One of the hardest characters to write is the character who&#039;s a pale imitation of someone!  The trouble of course is that the writer has to make that not very energetic character someone you want to hear more about.  And that&#039;s the challenge that Boyd didn&#039;t quite meet, I think.

Hello HMH -- I know exactlywhat you&#039;re describing -- most of us do, I think.  I love disappearing into the world someone&#039;s created on the page.  I just wish I had time to do it more.  But that&#039;s what makes reading so wonderful.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Danielle,  I think it&#8217;s good to begin the year thinking a little about how and why we do what we do.  Thanks for helping me in that endeavor!</p>
<p>You&#8217;re very right, Emily, that it is in discussing different points of view that you find yourself actually figuring out what you do really think about someting.</p>
<p>Hello Charlotte &#8212; I also really like my book group and have found that we have the best discussions when a book really forces us out of the places we like to be.  </p>
<p>Mandarine &#8212; The infinite shades of gray between black and white take longer to express?  Aren&#8217;t what people are looking for?  I don&#8217;t know, actually, but I think you&#8217;ve asked a very good question.</p>
<p>Dear Litlove &#8212; That&#8217;s such an interesting point you make, about literary criticism not being about making judgments.  That certainly makes sense if you&#8217;ve chosen the work you&#8217;re writing about.  Goodness knows you&#8217;d better pick somebody you like if you&#8217;re going to be living with them for a long time!   </p>
<p>Ann &#8212; I am going to remember that &#8220;Tell Me&#8221; template.  It&#8217;s something I wish I&#8217;d known when I began writing essays, and I&#8217;ll bet my own children will be putting it to good use soon enough!  </p>
<p>Dorothy &#8212; A spectacularly flawed book can be a very interesting thing to write about, I&#8217;ve just realized.  Books like that can show you a trend that&#8217;s been pushed in the wrong direction, or too far, for example.  I love what you posted about this subject, by the way &#8212; what really matters is that you write interestingly and energetically about your chosen subject.</p>
<p>Well there you go, W &#8212; I&#8217;m glad Boyd had that to take his mind off my blog post.</p>
<p>Carl &#8212; I&#8217;m with you &#8212; I&#8217;d rather go on about something I think is wonderful than slog along describing some insipid book or film.</p>
<p>Kate &#8212; One of the hardest characters to write is the character who&#8217;s a pale imitation of someone!  The trouble of course is that the writer has to make that not very energetic character someone you want to hear more about.  And that&#8217;s the challenge that Boyd didn&#8217;t quite meet, I think.</p>
<p>Hello HMH &#8212; I know exactlywhat you&#8217;re describing &#8212; most of us do, I think.  I love disappearing into the world someone&#8217;s created on the page.  I just wish I had time to do it more.  But that&#8217;s what makes reading so wonderful.</p>
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		<title>By: healingmagichands</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 19:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is why I love reading your blog, bloglily.  There is usually such a wonderful discussion going on here.  Rational, thinking, articulate people discussing my favorite subject:  reading.

I love books.  I used reading as an escape from reality during a less than ideal childhood, and my criteria were not critical in the least.  What I wanted most was something interesting enough that it would take me away from the place I did not wish to be, something I could immerse myself in deeply enough I could not hear my parents fighting.  To this day I am so good at escaping into books that my husband has learned not to assume I will hear him if he begins a conversation with me when my nose is in a book.

Needless to say, adventure romances, science fiction, and mysteries were very good at getting me away.  It as taken me a very long time to grow away from that psychological imperative and become able to enjoy slower, more deep writing.  I suppose this might explain why I have resisted non-fiction for so long.  

Anyway, actually reviewing a book seems too much like work for me.  I can generally say why I liked it in an intelligent way if I am pressed.  This is not to say I do not like to read reviews, especially thoughtful ones like I have been finding here and on other commenters sites.   

Thank you for your blog.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is why I love reading your blog, bloglily.  There is usually such a wonderful discussion going on here.  Rational, thinking, articulate people discussing my favorite subject:  reading.</p>
<p>I love books.  I used reading as an escape from reality during a less than ideal childhood, and my criteria were not critical in the least.  What I wanted most was something interesting enough that it would take me away from the place I did not wish to be, something I could immerse myself in deeply enough I could not hear my parents fighting.  To this day I am so good at escaping into books that my husband has learned not to assume I will hear him if he begins a conversation with me when my nose is in a book.</p>
<p>Needless to say, adventure romances, science fiction, and mysteries were very good at getting me away.  It as taken me a very long time to grow away from that psychological imperative and become able to enjoy slower, more deep writing.  I suppose this might explain why I have resisted non-fiction for so long.  </p>
<p>Anyway, actually reviewing a book seems too much like work for me.  I can generally say why I liked it in an intelligent way if I am pressed.  This is not to say I do not like to read reviews, especially thoughtful ones like I have been finding here and on other commenters sites.   </p>
<p>Thank you for your blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Books : Timesunion.com blog -- Books Blog: A Conspiracy of Smart People &#187; A little Menken in the morning&#8230; -- timesunion.com -- Albany N.Y.</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 14:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] is Of Books and Bicycles. In a recent post, Of Books responds to a post on a different blog about book reviewing and feeling sheepish about criticizing someone who has put so much work into a book AND has gotten [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is Of Books and Bicycles. In a recent post, Of Books responds to a post on a different blog about book reviewing and feeling sheepish about criticizing someone who has put so much work into a book AND has gotten [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Book reviews &#171; Of Books and Bicycles</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Book reviews &#171; Of Books and Bicycles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 01:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] by Dorothy W. on January 10th, 2007  In light of Bloglily&#8217;s recent post on book reviews (if you go there, make sure to check out the comments too), I found this passage [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] by Dorothy W. on January 10th, 2007  In light of Bloglily&#8217;s recent post on book reviews (if you go there, make sure to check out the comments too), I found this passage [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kate S.</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 21:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What an interesting discussion you&#039;ve begun here! I particularly appreciate hearing charlotteotter and litlove&#039;s takes on Ruth&#039;s narrative in Restless. Before now I hadn&#039;t given much thought to the fact that, as charlotteotter says, Ruth&#039;s &quot;own apparently unconventional life suddenly looked very normal in comparison to her mother’s amazing achievements&quot; or litlove&#039;s related point that Ruth is &quot;supposed to be a pale imitation of her mother when the book starts out .&quot; This is the best of the world of book blogging, this sort of measured, thoughtful discussion, complete with respectful disagreement, and the possibility of reevaluating one&#039;s own opinion in the face of it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What an interesting discussion you&#8217;ve begun here! I particularly appreciate hearing charlotteotter and litlove&#8217;s takes on Ruth&#8217;s narrative in Restless. Before now I hadn&#8217;t given much thought to the fact that, as charlotteotter says, Ruth&#8217;s &#8220;own apparently unconventional life suddenly looked very normal in comparison to her mother’s amazing achievements&#8221; or litlove&#8217;s related point that Ruth is &#8220;supposed to be a pale imitation of her mother when the book starts out .&#8221; This is the best of the world of book blogging, this sort of measured, thoughtful discussion, complete with respectful disagreement, and the possibility of reevaluating one&#8217;s own opinion in the face of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl V.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carl V.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 21:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sounds like the experience that I often have with films.  Many are good, entertaining even, but I come away thinking what could have been if just this or that had been changed or added to.  Thankfully not all films, or books, are that way.  There are several times when I don&#039;t do movie reviews simply because I don&#039;t have enough nice to say about it and am disappointed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like the experience that I often have with films.  Many are good, entertaining even, but I come away thinking what could have been if just this or that had been changed or added to.  Thankfully not all films, or books, are that way.  There are several times when I don&#8217;t do movie reviews simply because I don&#8217;t have enough nice to say about it and am disappointed.</p>
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		<title>By: w</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 18:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What a wonderful discussion! This is what a literary discourse should sound like, as it&#039;s as important I think to discuss the flaws as much as the merits of a book, and then to emphasize those merits all the more.

And note that &lt;em&gt;Restless&lt;/em&gt; just picked up the Costa Novel Award (formerly the Whitbread Prize). You can read about it &lt;a href=&quot;http://enjoyment.independent.co.uk/books/news/article2140283.ece&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a wonderful discussion! This is what a literary discourse should sound like, as it&#8217;s as important I think to discuss the flaws as much as the merits of a book, and then to emphasize those merits all the more.</p>
<p>And note that <em>Restless</em> just picked up the Costa Novel Award (formerly the Whitbread Prize). You can read about it <a href="http://enjoyment.independent.co.uk/books/news/article2140283.ece" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Dorothy W.</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 14:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Such an interesting post that provoked such great comments!  I feel conflicted about negative reviews -- I do give them sometimes, although I try to go beyond &quot;I didn&#039;t like it&quot; and point out the positives and the things others might like and the personal reasons I didn&#039;t like something so as to leave open the possibility that others might like it.  I do think there&#039;s a value to pointing out flaws, as you do so well here, but not if it&#039;s done in a snarky, gleeful way.  I suppose if I criticize, I try hard to say why I feel that way, and I&#039;d much prefer to praise.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Such an interesting post that provoked such great comments!  I feel conflicted about negative reviews &#8212; I do give them sometimes, although I try to go beyond &#8220;I didn&#8217;t like it&#8221; and point out the positives and the things others might like and the personal reasons I didn&#8217;t like something so as to leave open the possibility that others might like it.  I do think there&#8217;s a value to pointing out flaws, as you do so well here, but not if it&#8217;s done in a snarky, gleeful way.  I suppose if I criticize, I try hard to say why I feel that way, and I&#8217;d much prefer to praise.</p>
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		<title>By: Ann</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 10:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think Danielle has a very good point when she talks about the importance of what a reader brings to a book.  Each one of us is going to bring so many different things.  Not only will we have different literary tastes and therefore value different types of writing, but we will also bring such varied life experiences to bear on our appreciation of the way the writer has gone about his or her job.  At book group last night we had quite a long discussion of Peter Carey&#039;s latest novel &#039;Theft&#039;, which I had enjoyed because of the way he manipulates the reader&#039;s perception of truth through the use of narrator (what I&#039;m interested in) but which my friend Mary had really found irritating because she is a painter and felt he&#039;d got the details of how a painter works wrong.
On the subject of expanding on &#039;it was good/it was bad&#039;.  There is an interesting book which I use with my trainee teachers on how to help children develop past this stage of lit. crit.  It&#039;s by Aidan Chambers and called &#039;Tell Me&#039;.  Inevitably, the students have to learn to get past this stage themselves before they can help children to do so.  When I get stuck with what I want to say about a novel, I just think back to his four basic questions: &#039;Tell me about something you liked; tellme about something you didn&#039;t like; tell me about something that puzzled you; tell me about any patterns you noticed.&#039;  I&#039;ve never known those questions to fail to get a discussion going.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Danielle has a very good point when she talks about the importance of what a reader brings to a book.  Each one of us is going to bring so many different things.  Not only will we have different literary tastes and therefore value different types of writing, but we will also bring such varied life experiences to bear on our appreciation of the way the writer has gone about his or her job.  At book group last night we had quite a long discussion of Peter Carey&#8217;s latest novel &#8216;Theft&#8217;, which I had enjoyed because of the way he manipulates the reader&#8217;s perception of truth through the use of narrator (what I&#8217;m interested in) but which my friend Mary had really found irritating because she is a painter and felt he&#8217;d got the details of how a painter works wrong.<br />
On the subject of expanding on &#8216;it was good/it was bad&#8217;.  There is an interesting book which I use with my trainee teachers on how to help children develop past this stage of lit. crit.  It&#8217;s by Aidan Chambers and called &#8216;Tell Me&#8217;.  Inevitably, the students have to learn to get past this stage themselves before they can help children to do so.  When I get stuck with what I want to say about a novel, I just think back to his four basic questions: &#8216;Tell me about something you liked; tellme about something you didn&#8217;t like; tell me about something that puzzled you; tell me about any patterns you noticed.&#8217;  I&#8217;ve never known those questions to fail to get a discussion going.</p>
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		<title>By: litlove</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 09:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m glad to see Kate commented, because reading your review reminded me so much of hers. I really enjoyed restless, and thought that Ruth developed towards her mother in two ways, firstly in finally seeing her as a woman, not just as a &#039;Mother&#039;, and secondly in recognising the possibilities she had to become more like her, not just develop in reaction to her, But I agree that Boyd didn&#039;t depict the 70s as well as he did those war years. I suppose that I rarely think about whether I like something or not; like Danielle, I pretty much like all that I read, and literary criticism isn&#039;t (to my mind) about value judgements. I tell the students that lit. critics are like diplomats, juggling all kinds of opposing views about a story but never being so impolite or impolitic as to descend into personal comment about it. I always run with the thought that flaws are intentional. Isn&#039;t Ruth supposed to be a pale imitation of her mother when the book starts out (even though with the egocentrism of youth she&#039;s ready to condemn her out of hand?). Isn&#039;t she drifting and a bit feckless, in opposition to her mother&#039;s silent dynamism? And doesn&#039;t she turn her life around a bit more by the end, the revelations of her mother provoking a proper analysis of her own life and situation? Anyhow, end of lecture, getting down from the podium now! You write beautifully about the book, Lily, and I was extremely interested in what you had to say about it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad to see Kate commented, because reading your review reminded me so much of hers. I really enjoyed restless, and thought that Ruth developed towards her mother in two ways, firstly in finally seeing her as a woman, not just as a &#8216;Mother&#8217;, and secondly in recognising the possibilities she had to become more like her, not just develop in reaction to her, But I agree that Boyd didn&#8217;t depict the 70s as well as he did those war years. I suppose that I rarely think about whether I like something or not; like Danielle, I pretty much like all that I read, and literary criticism isn&#8217;t (to my mind) about value judgements. I tell the students that lit. critics are like diplomats, juggling all kinds of opposing views about a story but never being so impolite or impolitic as to descend into personal comment about it. I always run with the thought that flaws are intentional. Isn&#8217;t Ruth supposed to be a pale imitation of her mother when the book starts out (even though with the egocentrism of youth she&#8217;s ready to condemn her out of hand?). Isn&#8217;t she drifting and a bit feckless, in opposition to her mother&#8217;s silent dynamism? And doesn&#8217;t she turn her life around a bit more by the end, the revelations of her mother provoking a proper analysis of her own life and situation? Anyhow, end of lecture, getting down from the podium now! You write beautifully about the book, Lily, and I was extremely interested in what you had to say about it.</p>
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		<title>By: mandarine</title>
		<link>http://bloglily.com/2007/01/09/if-you-dont-have-anything-nice-to-say/#comment-4581</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 08:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I often listen to the sunday night movie critic debate over our national radio, and it always sounds to me that all these top-notch cinema critics do is put nice erudite decoration around a binary biased gut feeling &#039;I liked it&#039;/&#039;I did not like it&#039;. Superlatives of both sides are all threadbare by now, as nobody will ever say something like: &#039;The movie had a relatively original plot, with a good photography quality and a fair performance of the main actress. I was personally not moved by the ending, but I gather some might be. I can but recommend it, although I would not want to see it again myself.&#039;
Where on Earth have gone the infinite shades of grey between black and white?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I often listen to the sunday night movie critic debate over our national radio, and it always sounds to me that all these top-notch cinema critics do is put nice erudite decoration around a binary biased gut feeling &#8216;I liked it&#8217;/'I did not like it&#8217;. Superlatives of both sides are all threadbare by now, as nobody will ever say something like: &#8216;The movie had a relatively original plot, with a good photography quality and a fair performance of the main actress. I was personally not moved by the ending, but I gather some might be. I can but recommend it, although I would not want to see it again myself.&#8217;<br />
Where on Earth have gone the infinite shades of grey between black and white?</p>
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