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		<title>By: Dee May</title>
		<link>http://bloglily.com/2008/07/29/you-suck/#comment-22399</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 03:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This was an excellent post for me to read as I am just starting out.  Gives me a whole new perspective on the world of blogging and how spiteful people can be.  But also how much we can grow from offhanded remarks like this.

I loved this post.  Thank you for this.  Great for me to learn from.  Looking forward to reading more of them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was an excellent post for me to read as I am just starting out.  Gives me a whole new perspective on the world of blogging and how spiteful people can be.  But also how much we can grow from offhanded remarks like this.</p>
<p>I loved this post.  Thank you for this.  Great for me to learn from.  Looking forward to reading more of them.</p>
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		<title>By: bloglily</title>
		<link>http://bloglily.com/2008/07/29/you-suck/#comment-22211</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 18:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello and welcome Ms. Lazy Buddhist.  How wonderful to hear from a fellow east bay person. Depriving the fire of oxygen seems to do the trick.

Hey LK -- I&#039;m glad you&#039;re back in the virtual world.  I&#039;ve missed you.  Here&#039;s to the big suck!

Dear litlove,  squish.  Be particularly careful of the mothers who wear pointy heels on occasion.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello and welcome Ms. Lazy Buddhist.  How wonderful to hear from a fellow east bay person. Depriving the fire of oxygen seems to do the trick.</p>
<p>Hey LK &#8212; I&#8217;m glad you&#8217;re back in the virtual world.  I&#8217;ve missed you.  Here&#8217;s to the big suck!</p>
<p>Dear litlove,  squish.  Be particularly careful of the mothers who wear pointy heels on occasion.</p>
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		<title>By: LazyBuddhist</title>
		<link>http://bloglily.com/2008/07/29/you-suck/#comment-22208</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 18:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just stumbled upon your blog via . . . uh . . . some other blog?  I&#039;m an East Bay girl myself, though nowhere as gifted as you are with the words.  

I feel fortunate that I&#039;ve never had to delete an entire comment on my blog.  For all my personal posts I would say people have been nothing but kind. (Though on one particular topic, the comments have gotten rather heated, but nothing too out of hand).

You did the right thing.  If you take deprive the fire of oxygen it dies right down.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just stumbled upon your blog via . . . uh . . . some other blog?  I&#8217;m an East Bay girl myself, though nowhere as gifted as you are with the words.  </p>
<p>I feel fortunate that I&#8217;ve never had to delete an entire comment on my blog.  For all my personal posts I would say people have been nothing but kind. (Though on one particular topic, the comments have gotten rather heated, but nothing too out of hand).</p>
<p>You did the right thing.  If you take deprive the fire of oxygen it dies right down.</p>
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		<title>By: LK</title>
		<link>http://bloglily.com/2008/07/29/you-suck/#comment-22205</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 17:10:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, if you do suck then I wish I could be half as sucky as you are! :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, if you do suck then I wish I could be half as sucky as you are! <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: litlove</title>
		<link>http://bloglily.com/2008/07/29/you-suck/#comment-22197</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 11:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh no, another troll! I think you have to feel pity for these people, because they are clearly full of hate and resentment and whoever had fun that way? You did exactly the right thing with it, just like you did the last time one such tried to get a kick out of poor behavior. My advice to them: never take on the mothers; we&#039;ve squashed far more threatening revolutions.....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh no, another troll! I think you have to feel pity for these people, because they are clearly full of hate and resentment and whoever had fun that way? You did exactly the right thing with it, just like you did the last time one such tried to get a kick out of poor behavior. My advice to them: never take on the mothers; we&#8217;ve squashed far more threatening revolutions&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: bloglily</title>
		<link>http://bloglily.com/2008/07/29/you-suck/#comment-22196</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 02:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Danielle,  I think you are absolutely right -- you just ignore this stuff.  

Thank you for the heads up W, NR.  I&#039;ve seen that article, and think it&#039;s interesting and food for thought.  And now, on to other subjects, right?!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Danielle,  I think you are absolutely right &#8212; you just ignore this stuff.  </p>
<p>Thank you for the heads up W, NR.  I&#8217;ve seen that article, and think it&#8217;s interesting and food for thought.  And now, on to other subjects, right?!</p>
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		<title>By: Danielle</title>
		<link>http://bloglily.com/2008/07/29/you-suck/#comment-22195</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 19:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Bloglily, so sorry to hear you had a nasty commenter.  It is easiest to just delete them away, but for me when it&#039;s happened it is just a little bit upsetting.  I figure it is generally just one very unhappy person who feels better about himself (in this case) by making someone else feel worse.  He definitely needs to seek out a different (and less hurtful) form of attention somewhere else!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Bloglily, so sorry to hear you had a nasty commenter.  It is easiest to just delete them away, but for me when it&#8217;s happened it is just a little bit upsetting.  I figure it is generally just one very unhappy person who feels better about himself (in this case) by making someone else feel worse.  He definitely needs to seek out a different (and less hurtful) form of attention somewhere else!!</p>
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		<title>By: Writer not Reading</title>
		<link>http://bloglily.com/2008/07/29/you-suck/#comment-22194</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Writer not Reading]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 16:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OK, guys. I just wrote a post based on a New York Times magazine article coming out this Sunday on blog trolls and what a horrifying pervasive culture it is. ( I am really not &quot;trawling&quot; for visits; I just think all bloggers should be aware of this.) 

For one thing, Lily, I strongly believe, and this has happened to me, if you visit a site that is dominated by such &quot;anonymous&quot; trolls with no blogs of their own, they will trace you back to your blog and target you. This is a fact. And I know you and I have visited such a site. 

The other thing, if you don&#039;t delete it, and ignore it, they just escalate. They are professionals. They know just what to say to get riled up attention and they thrive on it. 

This goes way beyond just attention-seeking. These people are hate-mongers. They have whole websites that share tactics. They know what buttons to push and they share their successes like hunters share their prized kill. 

Read my post and/or go straight to the article. It&#039;s horrifying but it also makes sense and knowing about it protects bloggers from vulnerability. It&#039;s like knowing about pedophiles.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, guys. I just wrote a post based on a New York Times magazine article coming out this Sunday on blog trolls and what a horrifying pervasive culture it is. ( I am really not &#8220;trawling&#8221; for visits; I just think all bloggers should be aware of this.) </p>
<p>For one thing, Lily, I strongly believe, and this has happened to me, if you visit a site that is dominated by such &#8220;anonymous&#8221; trolls with no blogs of their own, they will trace you back to your blog and target you. This is a fact. And I know you and I have visited such a site. </p>
<p>The other thing, if you don&#8217;t delete it, and ignore it, they just escalate. They are professionals. They know just what to say to get riled up attention and they thrive on it. </p>
<p>This goes way beyond just attention-seeking. These people are hate-mongers. They have whole websites that share tactics. They know what buttons to push and they share their successes like hunters share their prized kill. </p>
<p>Read my post and/or go straight to the article. It&#8217;s horrifying but it also makes sense and knowing about it protects bloggers from vulnerability. It&#8217;s like knowing about pedophiles.</p>
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		<title>By: bloglily</title>
		<link>http://bloglily.com/2008/07/29/you-suck/#comment-22191</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 18:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh Gentle Reader, Yes I think that&#039;s the answer.  And I&#039;m glad you liked that post.  Now, of course, it&#039;s time to get back to it!

Hello TwoBlueDay, and welcome!  That&#039;s a very funny response.  The ad hominum attack is the lowest form of argument (I mean, we could probably come up with even lower, but right now, on a Friday morning, that seems to me to be the worst).  

Ben, Maybe people are afraid you&#039;ll talk about their flaws!  I don&#039;t know why a low-paid, low-success, low-status thing like writing stories would bring out the weird in people, as you say, but it seems to, doesn&#039;t it?  And I want to know more about these &quot;encouraging conversations&quot; and that book in the making!  I&#039;ll have to go and snoop around your blog to see if there&#039;s any clue.  

Maleesha -- it is a little weird.  Rules of courtesy make life so much more pleasant -- for everyone.  So what makes a person disregard them?  It&#039;s interesting, and probably that person would be a terrific character in a book.  Not so great on a blog, which is why the delete key is there.

You know, Sandi, it&#039;s also interesting how comments like this are intended to push a button.  The trouble is that the &quot;you should stay at home with your children button&quot; is broken over at my house.  On the other hand, &quot;your haircut&#039;s too short&quot; works really, really well.  (But don&#039;t tell anyone, okay?)

And I send you exactly the same wishes, dear Annette!  

Dear OP -- I like knowing you&#039;ve been lifted.  But then there is the problem of getting together in the real world, for more uplifting... I will work on that.  I think you&#039;re due for something super fun, in light of my recent inability to keep my calendar straight.  xoxox, L]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh Gentle Reader, Yes I think that&#8217;s the answer.  And I&#8217;m glad you liked that post.  Now, of course, it&#8217;s time to get back to it!</p>
<p>Hello TwoBlueDay, and welcome!  That&#8217;s a very funny response.  The ad hominum attack is the lowest form of argument (I mean, we could probably come up with even lower, but right now, on a Friday morning, that seems to me to be the worst).  </p>
<p>Ben, Maybe people are afraid you&#8217;ll talk about their flaws!  I don&#8217;t know why a low-paid, low-success, low-status thing like writing stories would bring out the weird in people, as you say, but it seems to, doesn&#8217;t it?  And I want to know more about these &#8220;encouraging conversations&#8221; and that book in the making!  I&#8217;ll have to go and snoop around your blog to see if there&#8217;s any clue.  </p>
<p>Maleesha &#8212; it is a little weird.  Rules of courtesy make life so much more pleasant &#8212; for everyone.  So what makes a person disregard them?  It&#8217;s interesting, and probably that person would be a terrific character in a book.  Not so great on a blog, which is why the delete key is there.</p>
<p>You know, Sandi, it&#8217;s also interesting how comments like this are intended to push a button.  The trouble is that the &#8220;you should stay at home with your children button&#8221; is broken over at my house.  On the other hand, &#8220;your haircut&#8217;s too short&#8221; works really, really well.  (But don&#8217;t tell anyone, okay?)</p>
<p>And I send you exactly the same wishes, dear Annette!  </p>
<p>Dear OP &#8212; I like knowing you&#8217;ve been lifted.  But then there is the problem of getting together in the real world, for more uplifting&#8230; I will work on that.  I think you&#8217;re due for something super fun, in light of my recent inability to keep my calendar straight.  xoxox, L</p>
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		<title>By: gentle reader</title>
		<link>http://bloglily.com/2008/07/29/you-suck/#comment-22189</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 21:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Isn&#039;t it great that we can just hit the delete button on people like that?  That&#039;s the wonderful antidote to the rudeness that anonymity breeds.  I&#039;m sorry you had to experience it, though!  I loved your post about not writing, by the way :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t it great that we can just hit the delete button on people like that?  That&#8217;s the wonderful antidote to the rudeness that anonymity breeds.  I&#8217;m sorry you had to experience it, though!  I loved your post about not writing, by the way <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: twoblueday</title>
		<link>http://bloglily.com/2008/07/29/you-suck/#comment-22188</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 21:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I showed up here via Simply Wait which has been on my blogroll almost from the beginning. So, with that minimalist introduction, I thrust myself into your blog.

I was getting some comments from an individual who disagreed with some of my points, and addressed his/her points ad hominem, as they say. So, after being cursed and consigned to the devil, it dawned on me that I could intercept such messages before they actually appeared on my blog, and do with them what I would. So, I bowdlerized them (is tha the right word?). The expletives were deleted, and all references to the wrongness of my views were reversed. I love that editing feature. 

Of course, the blogger left no web page address and a fake email address. Those drop-in bangers usually do not want dialogue, just a place to whine.

Write on.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I showed up here via Simply Wait which has been on my blogroll almost from the beginning. So, with that minimalist introduction, I thrust myself into your blog.</p>
<p>I was getting some comments from an individual who disagreed with some of my points, and addressed his/her points ad hominem, as they say. So, after being cursed and consigned to the devil, it dawned on me that I could intercept such messages before they actually appeared on my blog, and do with them what I would. So, I bowdlerized them (is tha the right word?). The expletives were deleted, and all references to the wrongness of my views were reversed. I love that editing feature. </p>
<p>Of course, the blogger left no web page address and a fake email address. Those drop-in bangers usually do not want dialogue, just a place to whine.</p>
<p>Write on.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Daniel</title>
		<link>http://bloglily.com/2008/07/29/you-suck/#comment-22186</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben Daniel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 04:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[BlogLily,

My theory is that writers sometimes bring out the weird in others, particularly when said writers are good writers, and even more so if the writer in question has had some measure of success. You are a great writer and the quality of your writing is being noticed. Weird jealousies will emerge.

This is something I&#039;ve experienced. It turns out that some people don&#039;t think that pastors should write either, and recently I made the mistake of telling a few people about some very encouraging conversations I&#039;ve been having with a publisher. A few of my good friends have gotten very weird on me.

I don&#039;t know what its all about. Weird.

Ben]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BlogLily,</p>
<p>My theory is that writers sometimes bring out the weird in others, particularly when said writers are good writers, and even more so if the writer in question has had some measure of success. You are a great writer and the quality of your writing is being noticed. Weird jealousies will emerge.</p>
<p>This is something I&#8217;ve experienced. It turns out that some people don&#8217;t think that pastors should write either, and recently I made the mistake of telling a few people about some very encouraging conversations I&#8217;ve been having with a publisher. A few of my good friends have gotten very weird on me.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know what its all about. Weird.</p>
<p>Ben</p>
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		<title>By: maleesha</title>
		<link>http://bloglily.com/2008/07/29/you-suck/#comment-22185</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 04:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The internet is a breeding ground for trolls.  I get a comment like this every now and then and it makes me feel awful! I recently wrote a post on &lt;a href=&quot;http://maleesha.wordpress.com/2008/06/18/the-hostile-internet/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Hostile Internet&lt;/a&gt; which covers my frustration on reading such drivel.  But you are totally right...it&#039;s done for attention.  They must not get any attention in real life so they have to get virtual attention in a virtual world.  Sad, isn&#039;t it?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The internet is a breeding ground for trolls.  I get a comment like this every now and then and it makes me feel awful! I recently wrote a post on <a href="http://maleesha.wordpress.com/2008/06/18/the-hostile-internet/" rel="nofollow">The Hostile Internet</a> which covers my frustration on reading such drivel.  But you are totally right&#8230;it&#8217;s done for attention.  They must not get any attention in real life so they have to get virtual attention in a virtual world.  Sad, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: sandi</title>
		<link>http://bloglily.com/2008/07/29/you-suck/#comment-22184</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 21:59:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You had just the perfect response to that creature: delete him out of here! I am constantly astonished by the things anonymous people are willing to say to others--and I think you&#039;re exactly right about him. I&#039;m sure he was just hoping to stir up a big debate on your lovely blog, and have people taking sides. But what a silly thing to debate: whether women should write or take care of their families! Like there&#039;s any choice to that one. We all do both. Somehow. Thank goodness for the delete button--and for your wisdom in using it. But also thank you for sharing this story. We all run into this from time to time, and it stings.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You had just the perfect response to that creature: delete him out of here! I am constantly astonished by the things anonymous people are willing to say to others&#8211;and I think you&#8217;re exactly right about him. I&#8217;m sure he was just hoping to stir up a big debate on your lovely blog, and have people taking sides. But what a silly thing to debate: whether women should write or take care of their families! Like there&#8217;s any choice to that one. We all do both. Somehow. Thank goodness for the delete button&#8211;and for your wisdom in using it. But also thank you for sharing this story. We all run into this from time to time, and it stings.</p>
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		<title>By: Annette</title>
		<link>http://bloglily.com/2008/07/29/you-suck/#comment-22183</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 19:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So sorry to hear about the nasty commenter. When folks are bitter like that I think it finds its way into their writing, too. 
Your blog is such a friendly place -- a companion as I send my own stories out into the world. Your focus on improving, on the page and not on what others say, is exactly right. I have no doubt at all that your stories and your novel, too, will find their way into print. I&#039;ll send you good wishes in the meanwhile that the acceptances come soon.

--A.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So sorry to hear about the nasty commenter. When folks are bitter like that I think it finds its way into their writing, too.<br />
Your blog is such a friendly place &#8212; a companion as I send my own stories out into the world. Your focus on improving, on the page and not on what others say, is exactly right. I have no doubt at all that your stories and your novel, too, will find their way into print. I&#8217;ll send you good wishes in the meanwhile that the acceptances come soon.</p>
<p>&#8211;A.</p>
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